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Poster: robace Date: Oct 12, 2007 4:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Without her

I know this maybe a tired old subject, but which shows was Donna absent from (years '72 thru '79). She may be heaven to some but she was hell to others.....Thanks for the help.

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Poster: abilene22 Date: Oct 12, 2007 8:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

7-17-76
A review from the reliable capn doubledose:

Reviewer: capn doubledose - - March 31, 2006
Subject: Donna is missing whole second set and this is why Jer rips

I love this show. Listend to set II twice back to back and have heard it before. Comes a Time on is just pure sickness everything is 20+ mins and Jerry is using that flanger and the wawa so characteristic of that '76 sound (which I personally love) there is a great William & Mary and a Shrine show from same year which sizzle but this one is truly unique - The next night is better known but it does not have the other worldly quality of this...

It ebbs and flows like some serious chemicals and the energy is excellent. One of the great ones of the late 70's but then this whole run is sick. Night after was my first bootleg but this is for the more refined palate.

Strap in for this one (top 5 unknown shows on whole site)

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 12, 2007 1:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 7/17/76!

This otherworldly set is one of the highlights not just of '76 but of the Dead's whole career -
Comes a Time>jam>Other One>jam>Eyes of the World>jam>Other One>Goin Down the Road.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd76-07-17.menke.minches.18389.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: craven714 Date: Oct 12, 2007 6:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

The only one I can think of right off hand is
http://www.archive.org/details/gd79-01-20.naks.moore.12575.sbeok.shnf

jboyaguar gave it three stars so it must be....oh wait he gave everything 3 stars.

Its the last appearance of Darkstar until 12-31-81

And I do recall something about Donnas absence due to a physical fight with Keith. He was accusing her of having an affair with Bobby around that time. What ever happen to free love?

I dont wanna start rumours. I do think that story was in a deadbase though

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Poster: BlueMtnMan Date: Oct 12, 2007 7:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

Personally, I think Donna added more than she took away but her absence didn't prevent the boys from producing some incredibly hot shows. Check out these from when Donna was on maternity leave. Not sure the exact dates but I believe she was absent from late November through December '73. This includes the shows From DP #14 11-30 & 12-2,DP #1 12-19, Download Series #4 12-10. Other 5 star shows from this time frame include 12-6 from Cleveland and 12-8 from Durham.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Oct 12, 2007 8:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

As anyone who's been here a while can attest, I've never been shy about my feelings towards Donna, often referring to some of her screeching as being akin to the sound of several large cats being set on fire (sorry for the image, cat lovers) and could regale you with any number of fine coices from 1979, a truly magical year for the boys with Jerry seemingly re-energized by the presence of the "new guy", but one can merely look at many of my previous posts to get that info. To be fair, however, I will admit to not disliking Donna all the time. As an example I submit for your consideration the renowned Mosque show from 05/25/77 (thanks for the date spot). Her work in this show is rather good and at times she makes some of the tunes.

At this time I could do a re-hash of one of my older posts under my old name, Lehighvet88, titled "Best Donna Screech", but many of the folks here were less than amused and didn't take it in the light-hearted spirit that it was put forth. I believe at the time I referenced for my choice a particulaly spine jarring moment from the PNE show of 6/22/73 where she takes her normally buzz-stomping scream at the end of a Playin' jam and takes it to a new level of earth-shattering pain. Again, that's just me and I will acknowledge that she did have moments of worthwhile and admirable contribution to a show, but these moments were often overshadowed by episodes of what can only be described as atonal misery. I will trust those gathered here to make some excellent suggestions for you to sample, for many of them posess wisdom greater than my own and I bow to their experience.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2007-10-12 15:03:50

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Oct 12, 2007 7:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her



Great suggestions, thanks. Donna's hit or miss with me, can't say she ever RUINS anything, maybe, but messes up some Wheels for me. I can't stand that lilt she does on the word will, "then the lightning we-EEL." I feel a little petty saying so, but it just drives me crazy.

My wife enjoys the band, but was never into them nor had she heard much before we met. So she's definitely coming from a nonpartisan stance. It was hilarious to see her reaction to her first "Donna Bomb" during Playin' with a little zoom on and the volume up loud. Damn near jumped out of her skin. "AH! What the hell was that?" I think it was a '74, one of those where Donna Jean just comes in like a gutshot Wookie, bellowing and laying shit to waste.

She's got her timing down, now, my wife. We duck and cover in unison, it's very touching.

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Poster: stilldead77 Date: Oct 12, 2007 7:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

You mean 5.25.77, right? (~);-)

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Poster: Stellablu187 Date: Oct 12, 2007 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

douche bag

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 12, 2007 6:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

DP14 - Boston Music Hall 11/30/73 and 12/2/73 - is a Donna-free zone on account of her being pregnant at the time so, without checking, its likely she's absent from all the shows around then.

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Poster: stilldead77 Date: Oct 12, 2007 7:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

And what a kick ass selection that one is. 14 and 19.

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Poster: JayColodesch Date: Oct 12, 2007 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Without her

My wife generally has the same reaction as do I to the normal Donna contribution. She has recently however heard some of the more mellow low key contributions as a backup harmony, and even a few of the lower key songs where Donna is keeping a rein on it, and has said she actually has a pretty good voice in lower volumes. In answer to the original question, I believe Donna took off, because of pregnancy, touring with the group for the whole East coast tour of late 1973. Late November thru most of December the boys toured without her.